Overview
- On HBO's Real Time, Maher labeled Eilish and Roan as "kids" and argued they misunderstand what Western civilization represents.
- He opened by citing Secretary of State Marco Rubio's Munich Security Conference remark about a shared Western civilization.
- Maher said Western values center on rule of law, respect for minorities, democracy and scientific inquiry rather than oppression.
- He argued some younger critics conflate "Western" with "White" and pointed to Japan's pre‑WWII actions and Genghis Khan to say atrocities are not unique to Europeans.
- The segment followed Eilish's Grammys condemnation of ICE and Roan's onstage "F—k ICE" comments, which drew a DHS official's rebuke, and Fox News reported no immediate comment from the artists.